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Preparing for El Capitan 10.11 !

9/28/2015

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Hey everyone,

I know that many of you are excited about El Cap coming in 2 days. I need to remind you that all newer Nvidia cards require delicate planning whenever there is an OS update.

The good news is that our EFI cards make this easier then for the poor souls with unflashed cards. They end up staring at a black screen as their Mac endlessly reboots.

So, if you have one of the following cards you need to think before hitting that "update" button:

GTX780Ti
GTX Titan Black
GTX750
GTX950
GTX960
GTX970
GTX980
GTX980Ti
GTX Titan-X

All of those cards have been left out of OS X since 10.8.5. Will Apple ever include drivers for them? Hard to say, but until the iPad Pro comes with a 980, maybe not.

So, again, please come here or read at Macrumours Mac Pro section or Netkas.org to see what the news is on the 30th. We are on the West Coast so lunchtime for you may be breakfast for us, we may not have the first posts.

Currently the GM build has numbers that match the linked driver from our driver page. If Apple changes the build number for Final Release, expect Nvidia to have an update. Unfortunately, if Apple springs the change on Nvidia at the last moment, it may take a day or two to be issued. If there is a work around, we will post it here. It is also possible that Apple will keep the GM build version and all will be well. The current Nvidia driver has a "b" in the version number, that means "Beta". Expect a release with an "F" in the Final one.

Again, please think before you hit "update", if there isn't an Nvidia driver yet you will be really mad at yourself.

UPDATE: Not only was the Beta driver compatible with 15A284, but Nvidia has already issued a Final driver for 10.11 Build 15A284. Please see the driver download page.

For those running Yosemite on an EFI card from us that requires Web Drivers, you will need to do the nv_disable step to install El Capitan, then turn the drivers back on via terminal. See the instructions here:

​http://www.macvidcards.com/blog/update-install-procedure-with-efi-cards-not-in-the-os-x-default-drivers

​Please note that the nv_disable terminal command does not have to be done from single user mode, it can be done whilst running a previous version of OS X  before you run the installer.
15 Comments
Bob Moore
9/29/2015 08:18:07 am

The September 22 update to 10.11.1 after the GM release broke the driver as it was a 15B not 15A ....

So am using my old card awaiting a fix.

Bob

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Robert John Churchill link
9/30/2015 04:11:41 pm

Today's release of OS X El Capitan (15A284) worked fine for me with NVIDIA Web Driver 346.03.01b07. To get everything going, I went to the App Store and downloaded El Capitan. After the installer ran, when it finally rebooted to begin the install, I held down Command-S to go into single user mode so that I could disable nvidia drivers:
nvram boot-args="nv_disable=1"
and then typed "reboot" to allow the installer to continue. About 20 or so minutes later, the installer finished and rebooted so I logged in, then reset nvram for my Dell 5K with:
sudo nvram boot-args="nvda_drv=1 nv_spanmodepolicy=1"
then rebooted.

Final result: release version of El Capitan in 5K with nvidia web drivers. :)

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MVC
9/30/2015 04:22:32 pm

Excellent ! I can report that using a 980Ti and trying to run the Final installer WITHOUT disabling Nvidia drivers doesn't work. I booted into 10.10 and used terminal there to set the value in NVRAM. (same effect as doing in single user mode) Very next time I booted again the installer continued. The Web Driver only checks for "15A" for build so will at least try to work for any and all El Cap 10.11 versions.

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laptopleon link
2/19/2016 11:17:58 am

After the first reboot / CMD S startup, I had no vision, so I typed the arguments in blindly, is that what's supposed to happen? Then indeed it restarted again and went on installing. :)

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MVC
2/19/2016 07:04:58 pm

No, you should have some sort of display. Sounds like you made it work anyway, so good job!

Christian Stüben link
10/1/2015 09:10:38 am

Bingo! About an hour ago the old nvidia control software informed me that a new driver is published. Installed the final driver 346.03.02f01, reboot, shut down, installed the 980 ti again, and ... yes you guessed correctly ... it is working again with el capitan.

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Jason Coursey
10/1/2015 10:04:43 am

Just an FYI for anyone reading out there. I tried Robert's method above. Command + S and disabled the nvidia drivers (was getting caught in a boot loop prior to doing that...). Continued install into El Capitan. Installed 346.03.01b07 and rebooted. Definitely working, but not working well, so then I installed the driver "update" when prompted 346.03.02f01. Both drivers do work (i.e. let me boot into El Capitan), but yield marginal results (tearing, lag and other issues).

I am running a 2011 Mac Pro 3.33, with a flashed Titan X from MacVidCards and a Dell UltraSharp U3415W (running at 3440 x 1440).

Any chance resetting vram with the:

sudo nvram boot-args="nvda_drv=1 nv_spanmodepolicy=1"

will help?

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Jordan
10/1/2015 02:38:45 pm

I'm getting the same thing, boots up into El cap fine but seeing some intense lag, mouse, scrolling, mission control etc. I have a Titan in my 3.33 Hex Mac Pro as well. Not sure what's going on either.

Tried an update and also did a fresh install on a spare drive and I'm getting the same behaviour on both. If you find a solution do let me know!

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MVC link
10/6/2015 03:31:25 pm

Hey, you guys having lag, can you verify that your boot args no longer contain the "nv_disable=1" line? Type nvram -p and see what is in boot args line.

Robert Moore
10/1/2015 03:30:13 pm

So El Capitan is in general release ....

Updated from 10.11.1 with a bit of a struggle ... as the App store was hiding the file not available in updates. It now wants me to add the Update Beta that broke my NVIDIA Web Driver ... not going there again.

Seems that boot args is different in El Cap ... does not stay after a reboot.

I disable SIP in Recovery mode ... reboot ... Terminal to change boot args ... reboot to Recovery mode to enable SIP ... reboot .... first time out ok .

But when I then shut down or reboot it reverts to no driver .

Got 5K to work one time ... have defaulted to 4K one DP cable to the Dell 5K monitor in order to keep it up after rebooting.

And then it is UHD not 4K ...

Well at least the Titan Black is back in the box.

Hope to have a better solution than this in the future ...

Bob

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MVC
10/1/2015 04:02:30 pm

Robert, you are not correct about boot-args, they definitely stay or there would be no purpose for Nvidia to release the driver at all. I have rebooted El Capitan 20 or 30 times on a variety of Mac Pros, no trouble having drivers quit. I am going to guess that you have buggered up your install somehow by going to 10.11.01 and then back to 10.11.

But myself and many others have had no trouble at all using Web Drivers on El Capitan so know that once you do it right, it will work.

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Robert Moore
10/1/2015 06:23:09 pm

That is good news ... so much speculation at this point.

In that I have a very responsive UHD Titan I am a bit reticent
to improve on good.

I will keep checking on the discourse here ... best I have found

Regards,

Bob

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Marko
10/1/2015 11:48:49 pm

Hi,
what about the GTX 760?
Supported by El Capitain native driver or needs the web driver?

Regards, Marko

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Marko
10/7/2015 12:03:29 am

GTX 760 works fine with both drivers

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Kevin Senzig
1/9/2016 03:21:02 pm

I am at the endless loop stage. Cmd-s did not boot to the black screen with text as described. I am a bit over my head with this. I had no idea the problems I was getting into. The old card is dead so I can't back up unless I buy a new old card?

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