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MVC EFI V2 coming for Maxwell and Pascal cards  AKA, don't run recent nvidia uefi updater on your Mac flashed cards.

6/17/2018

17 Comments

 
On June 4th, Nvidia released an update to enable DP1.3 and 1.4 on Maxwell and Pascal cards.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nv-uefi-update-x64.html

This includes everything from GTX750 on up. This is not a life-or-death update. But please do not run it on your MVC flashed cards. Our magic is in the EFI and it is doubtful that Nvidia has included a mechanism to maintain Mac EFI during this update.

So don't run theirs. We are busy building new versions of all our roms for this update. And since we have to bust open all  the old EFIs, we are going to do another fix.

As some have noticed, our EFI used to flash a tiny text debug window before boot. Then Apple decided to add APFS to 10.13 High Sierra. They enabled booting from APFS by adding it to the Mac Pro 5,1 Bootrom. Unfortunately, their implementation interfered with our card EFI. Nothing catastrophic, but more of a cosmetic issue and what feels like a delay during boot. This text has grown and slowed to a point where it is more distracting now.

The quick and easy fix is to remove all the APFS formatted drives. No more APFS disks, no more APFS text, and no more boot delay. We are going to combine this update with the Nvidia DP 1.3/1.4 update and roll it into future roms. To start, the 1070Ti will be our first new cards, and the first cards shipped with the updated rom.

We will also add GTX1050 and GTX1060 at that time as products, if they have proven stable in the Web driver. As we roll them into existing product lines these roms will also be available to past US customers as an update for a nominal fee and shipping. Please don't start asking, we'll announce when these are available. I am uncertain if our EU folks will be offering past update service or just new cards as they are written.

So, to reiterate, the new EFI will incorporate Nvidia's June 4th 2018 DP 1.3/1.4 update along with a cosmetic fix for Apple's recent APFS additions. The only people who might actually, desperately NEED this update are folks with cMP and and 8K. 

As usual, all the hacks, cracks, and other bozos selling pirated versions of our cards will continue offering unpatched older buggy versions, since they can't write their own EFI. If they would like to start licensing our work, now would be a good time to get in touch.

I have had a little disagreement with our Lead Software Engineer. I noticed that all of the other Macs certified for Mojave are 2012 or later. I'm pretty sure they all use the newer "Black" boot screen. I think the fact that the 5,1 has now been grouped with these 2012 and later machines means it should get a black boot screen. We have been testing this, it requires a known hack but looks really cool.

I like it. Lead Software Engineer doesn't. What do you guys think?


17 Comments
Chris
6/18/2018 07:24:10 pm

Getting the new firmware will require shipping the card in? I'm about to move to New Zealand, and I flat out won't be able to afford to ship my card back and forth to the US. :(

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Adam
6/19/2018 11:41:08 am

I like the black boot screen.

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hossam
6/20/2018 10:35:52 am

Ok, that is why i see that black text at startup, i have 10.13.5 and all drivers updated on mac pro 5.1, so now to get a faster boot should i need to update my MVC 1080ti again? or just remove the APFS drives?

BTW, why can't you use software like TeamViewer or so to update the cards while it is still here in our macs?
It is not that hard and you can get total control of the host computer and update the firmware and log off, an updater like Nvidia's one maybe... just a thought

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Adam
6/20/2018 10:48:43 am

I like that idea for updating the cards firmware. Would save time and wouldn't stop me from doing work.

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Forrest
6/20/2018 05:12:10 pm

Thanks so much for this announcement! My flashed 980 is working like a champ but I would love to see the new DP compatibility. Removal of the login screen wall of text and a black boot screen would be nice bonuses.

Have you ever thought about doing away with reporting GPU memory as 4096MB in System Info and switching the newer cards over to showing as 4GB, 8GB, etc.?

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mulluk
6/22/2018 04:27:29 am

what about including the nMP 6.1 EFI directly in V2?

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Dan
6/24/2018 07:09:36 am

In regards to the debug text issue, I have two such incidences... the one you're talking about that occurs immediately before boot (relating to APFS), and then a separate blob of text that displays after I enter my FileVault password (and displays instead of the Apple logo until the GUI loads). I began noticing that problem with one of the point releases of Sierra and it has continued through all the releases of High Sierra. At first I thought it I could have some file corruption, because after a fresh install of 10.13 on a new disk I was seeing the Apple logo like usual. But once I re-enabled FileVault the same text re-appeared.

So it would seem the issue has something to do with using one of your cards (or at least the 750Ti you flashed for me) under Sierra and High Sierra when FileVault is turned on.

If your V2 EFI fixes that issue in addition to the APFS text blob then count me in for sure. I join the others in hoping you could come up with some way to flash it remotely, but I would also be willing to send it in.

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Al link
6/30/2018 03:30:24 pm

Love to get rid of the rolling text on startup and I like the idea of the black screen as well!

(Using an MVC GeForce 1080 at this point, but I've been using your superb GPUs since my brother got me down to Hollywood before MVC was formed!)

Cheers,

Al

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Flowrider
7/1/2018 10:03:53 am

Rolling Text is in no way an issue for me.

Lou

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Bradley Dichter
7/1/2018 02:46:11 pm

I prefer the legacy gray and not the new black background. The progress bar looks like an inverted video glitch. The text is bothersome as we have many APFS boot volumes.

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Scotty W
7/11/2018 12:46:29 pm

I'm seeing that wall of text at boot. Another issue I'm having is that my display just won't take some signals for some reason. I have DisplayPort to mini, hdmi to hdmi, and Displayport to Displayport. only the hdmi is stable. cables are fine. occasionally all 3 options will work, but every now and then it'll act is if the port isn't sending anything down to the display.

indifferent on the boot screen. black would be cool to stay uniform with the new models.

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Andre Gross
8/21/2018 07:20:36 am

I would also like to get the fix for the debug text. I hate the look of that debug thing and it definately slows down my boot speed - measured against an original Apple Card. Also it would be cool to do that flashy thing remotely or by providing the fixed bios to flash by myself... it would be very sad to send the card in from austria, as i need it for work...

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Mikko
8/22/2018 07:05:50 am

Not 100% sure if my problem comes from this update. I installed WIN10 on my Mac Pro 5.1. Single hard drive and no Mac OS yet. After updating to latest Nvidia Drivers i get just black screen on boot. PRAM / SCM reset and single user mode wont give me any display output! Already ordered vintage graphics card so i can start sorting out problem.

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Eugene link
8/25/2018 08:51:39 am

Some way of remote flashing is almost a must! Without it cards are not 'flashed' in full sense of the word to begin with and saying that they a fully compatible with OS/computer is... not a full truth to put it softly.

Also, requiring to send the card to d the update is basically making your customer paying for your business risks, which does not sound fair.

I also have a glitch in finder windows that comes and goes as it pleases on 10.13. - might be something with EFI as well...

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Freq Rider
2/24/2019 11:49:08 pm

I too am getting the verbose Blahhblah at startup in HS with my GTX980 in a 3,1. I don’t have any APFS drives but I do have FileVault active? I don’t believe this is an APFS thing. Interestingly, when I boot up HS/Mojave via boot picker, no verbose startup! I also noticed verbose startup in my Linux partition, (Ubuntu) AFTER I installed Nvidia drivers! No verbose before with built in driver? Looks kinda MATRIXey in Linux! LoL

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Freq Rider
3/17/2019 12:42:21 am

Actually, I noticed I’m getting a shell on startup for some strange reason now? I believe this to be from startup.nsh in my EFI partition? I can exit it and booting commences and it’s interactive? 3,1 running High Sierra (patched) and your GTX 1070? I even set echo -off and still present? Very strange indeed?

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