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back to basics, again. power & drivers (Aka, there is NOTHING wrong with your card)

10/26/2018

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okey doke, just got done testing my 4th "defective return" in 3 weeks that is oddly 100% functional.

somewhere in this blog is 'back to basics, power & drivers'

4th card that had nothing wrong. 4th card i got a string of nasty emails about. 4th card i had to answer emails, ask questions, etc. 4th card someone had to drive to post office. 4th card i had to open and then incredulously test when it booted up fine and ran tests fine. 4th card I had to write an email stating "operator error". it's either that or I am staring at a black screen and hallucinating the whole thing.

ALL POWER CABLE PINS ON CARD MUST BE CONNECTED !!!!

I'm pretty sure this is the issue most of the time. it certainly is on the 770 2GB, as it doesn't need the drivers.

ALL POWER CABLE PINS ON CARD MUST BE CONNECTED !!!!

​If the card has 14 pins, ALL 14 MUST BE CONNECTED !!!!

And if it has 8...who wants to guess?

​OK, short guy in 2nd row. CORRECT !!!!  8 pins must be connected.

I always get an email from someone hoping that the laws of physics don't apply to them and that the cables are OPTIONAL.

​They are not.

​Keep this in mind as you plug your card in. we extensively test each card after flashing. MOST bad cards are caught this way. the chances of your card failing in the 3-7 days it takes to get to you are slim, at best.

read the blog.

plug in ALL of the cables
37 Comments
Thomas
10/29/2018 09:39:28 am

Hi guys, maybe you'll also try to put the graphics card into another slot with the old MacPro 5.1. I have a Quadro K5000 for Mac and even this one has these problems with the web drivers (105 and 108). No hardware support on the desktop. The dock is white and everything stutters. I change the PCI slot to Bay 2 and everything works. There seems to be a problem with multiple GPUs in the webdrivers. This is not the fault of macvidcards, in my opinion. Because I don't have a flashed card I'm sitting in the same boat. Maybe Nvidia makes next time better drivers.

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Thomas link
1/8/2019 12:53:39 am

I found out that the drivers from Wacom are causing problems. On a fresh system all PCIe slots with hardware acceleration ran with Nvidia web drivers. After installing any drivers from 2018 for High Sierra, the first slot is at the bottom without acceleration in the system. If you install the latest version of the Wacom driver, the system won't find any Nvidia cards connected to the web drivers. Just presenting the CUDA window that shows "no gpu found". Isn't this already a conspiracy?

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Timothy Freitas
10/30/2018 12:47:07 pm

WARNING DO NOT UPDATE YOUR EXHISTING HIGH SIERRA FROM (17G65) Or else you will suffer the following....

System Version: macOS 10.13.6 (17G3025)
Kernel Version: Darwin 17.7.0
Boot Volume: High Sierra (Migrated)
Boot Mode: Normal

Just installed the lasted update to High Sierra
Of course now my Nvidia GTX 970 4GB card has no acceleration and the Nvidia Manager says
"NVIDIA Web Driver: 387.10.10.10.40.105(Not compatible)
I know it is not your fault but but it still sucks.

Tim Freitas

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MacVidCards Europe
11/1/2018 02:22:52 pm

New driver released for Sierra today: https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/378/WebDriver-378.05.05.25f11.pkg?fbclid=IwAR0Vlw9Xo3HqQ5P4bcoFJPJzzzRcmV_eGXwHt7nTnhX25gULBsWRGzMWtvE

Now we need to wait for High Sierra and maybe Mojave.

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flowrider
11/2/2018 12:04:58 pm

Just an FYI, the 108 driver, pulled by Nvidia, works with the High Sierra Security Update 002, build (17G3025).

I read on another site that it works, I was skeptical, but cloned my boot drive, and tried it. And, sure, enough, the 108 driver works just fine.

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Timothy Freitas
11/2/2018 03:12:03 pm

Can you send me a copy of the webdriver? 387.10.10.10.40.108. And what codadriver version are you running with this...396.148 or 410.130?

you can try to send it to my Email timothy.freitas@gmail.com, or direct me to where I can down load it.

Thanks Tim

MacVidCards Europe
11/3/2018 04:10:54 am

New driver for High Sierra as well: https://images.nvidia.com/mac/pkg/387/WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.108.pkg

Timothy Freitas
11/3/2018 07:39:45 am

MacVidCards Europe

Thanks for the link it worked great.
I loaded the WebDriver-387.10.10.10.40.108.pkg and then updated to the new cudadriver_410.130_macos.dmg and everything seems to be working just fine. I have a Nvidia GTX 970 4 GB card. I am now a happy camper.

Thanks Again
Tim Freitas

Geoff
11/6/2018 05:00:52 pm

Thanks so much for the link to 387.10.10.10.40.108. Fixed my problems after the security update.

Hopefully, there will be a driver for Mojave soon. I've been using an Nvidia GTX 970 for ~3 years and have been very happy...hoping to be able to upgrade to Mojave.

kain
10/31/2018 08:32:42 am

thank you Timothy Freitas I was just about to downgrade to High Sierra.

in February 2018 I bought NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6144 MB for my MacPro5.1 - I had no idea about Tim Cook's war on NVIDIA so I just assumed that buy would last me years not months.

I'm a disabled guy and I rely heavily on my Mac which i haven't been able to use for a month now as I'm waiting on this update from NVIDIA. I'm getting desperate now... Do you have a rough date even if its wrong of a possible date for this update. If NVIDIA are just not doing it then I'll somehow have to buy a AMD graphics card.

Timothy or anyone i know nothing at all about graphics cards and right now i have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6144 MB . But can you tell whats the best AMD card my MacPro 5.1 can have please? no idea how i'm gonna pay for it though

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Timothy Freitas
10/31/2018 08:44:45 am

Unfortunately I have no answers for you. I just purchased the Nvidia GTX 970 and find myself in the same boat as you. Wish I could help you but right now I have nothing. However in my case I could just stick my old video card back in because I didn't update to Mojave.

Tim Freitas

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Scott
11/1/2018 05:58:17 am

Hey David,

I'm one of the customers awaiting a refund because I returned a GTX 680.

It's interesting that you took the time to write this blog instead of issuing the refund through PayPal. It would have taken a few moments.

Instead, I received a bizarre ranting and completely unprofessional email that was undeserved.

You've had the returned card since October 16th, so now it's been escalated to a dispute with my credit card company.

Keep on rocking that great customer service!

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Marius
11/2/2018 07:36:13 am

Im running my Titan Xp form MVC with an EVGA Powerlink.
Gaming in Windows with max Powerlimit 120%, and its running totally stable. Im monitoring it with GPU Z and ive seen it go up to 319 watts. I think the powerlink is a great alternativ to external power.
I was running it with external power and had issues with crashes, thats why i switched to the powerlink.

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Kain
11/3/2018 08:30:35 am

Hi guys I've just downgraded to High Sierra using Restoring Time Machine and it worked :)

But the only issue i found i cant install Apple's Security Update 2018-002 10.13.6 but i dont know why. if i try the screen just goes black?

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flowrider
11/3/2018 10:26:06 am

Did you try to download it from here:

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1979?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

Lou

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Kain
11/3/2018 11:42:47 am

no why?

I used the App Store then Update

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Kain
11/3/2018 02:21:56 pm

Lou I've just tried that link and the same thing happened, odd

Also i've noticed it i just a box i dont see a tick ... odd

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Timothy Freitas
11/3/2018 06:49:36 pm

Did you guys try to force a shut down and then start your machine up again?

Was it hung up with a black screen and did not boot up or did you just not get the boot up screen?

If you just got hung up I suggest that you do a force shut down. I did and everything went just fine after I restarted my computer.

Thomas
11/3/2018 07:08:11 pm

Hey Folks! Maybe also interesting...

https://www.change.org/p/tim-cook-apple-publicly-commit-to-work-with-nvidia-on-drivers-for-mac-os-10-14?sfmc_tk=PRGOVkVG6JBVESxE4EEpZBCQMkmODe%2fTKF6Sca9F3ThmcQR8uF97ISMQ6uoGME5H&share_context=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_signer_receipt_v2&utm_campaign=triggered&j=449595&sfmc_sub=1685246081&l=32_HTML&u=65742257&mid=7233052&jb=19528

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Timothy Freitas
11/3/2018 08:36:34 pm

I already signed onto this today. Maybe with enough Mac users pressing him he will see the errors of his way on this matter.

Tim Freitas

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Kain
11/4/2018 04:35:17 am

I'm not sure if i should carry on trying to install Apple's Security Update 2018-002 10.13.6 as last night I stumbled on this link, look at the title?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/9stgft/psa_if_you_use_high_sierra_and_nvidia_web_drivers/

If its rubbish then what keys do you press for force shut down? if it just holding down the power button then I've already done that and the update still wont install.

Plus now I cant open iTunes. it said i needed a newer version so i updated it but iTunes still wont open. Any tips there too?

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Timothy Freitas
11/5/2018 11:28:25 am

The key combination to do a force quit is
as follows: Option(ALT), Command, esc on a mac key board. If you do it right a window will pop up and you select the Finder in it.

Tim Freitas

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Juan Navedo
11/6/2018 02:36:10 pm

I have the Mac Pro 5,1 configured by a good friend of mine who owns a business taking the old Mac Pro towers (3,1s, 4,1s, 5,1s) and outfitting them with current tech.

He configured my Mac Pro 5,1 tower to have a raided 1TB SSD made up of 4 250GB Samsung 850 EVO mSATA cards (which I'm trying to talk him into changing to a singular 1TB Samsung 850/860 EVO mSATA card). Logically speaking, changing it to a singular 1TB SSD card (with no raid) will solve the whole upgrading to 10.13.6 from 10.13.5 as what stops me is the installer telling me that it can't be installed into the raid setup I have because the type of raid is not recognized or something to that effect.

Now I don't know what will stop the upgrade to Mojave from 10.13.6 but from what I read, it's GPU support. I have the GTX 980 4GB and I'm also looking to upgrade that but with everything that is going on thanks to Apple's stubbornness, I don't know which card to upgrade to. I WAS going to upgrade to the GTX 1080Ti 11GB but from what I read on MacForums, Mojave doesn't play well with it. You can see the post here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mp5-1-what-you-have-to-do-to-upgrade-to-mojave.2142418/

Either these guys haven't heard of MacVidCards or they're not as savvy. I have no idea and I would love to clear all of this up so I can expand the use of my Mid 2010 5,1 Mac Pro. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Randy Gates
11/11/2018 11:16:10 am

Installed Security patch for 10.13.6 and driver (17G3025) 387.10.10.10.40.108 but Nvidia driver will not load. Install > select nVidia > restart, driver selection has reverted to default OS. This is the first time I've encountered this issue.

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MacVidCards Europe
11/12/2018 03:30:52 am

Please reset NVRAM and it should help.

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Timothy Freitas
11/11/2018 11:46:34 am

Did you give it permission to load? Check your System Preference then Security & Privacy. If you don't allow it the drivers won't be allowed to load. You will see the "Allow apps downloaded from:" section of the Security & Privacy window.

Hope this helps
Tim

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Randy Gates
11/11/2018 04:25:25 pm

The drivers install. They show up in the nVidia preference pane, but they won't load. When I select the nVidia driver by pane or menu item I'm prompted for a restart but it toggles back to the default OS driver. I tried the hacks in the reddit thread to no avail. The drivers show in the Preferences as current but they refused to load.

As for the Security settings. I don't see an option to allow a specific developer or install.

Thanks. This is the first time I've encountered this problem.

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Kain
11/11/2018 05:36:15 pm

Tim i always have it on "Allow apps downloaded from App Store and Identified developers" anyway... Didn't work so I tried just Allow apps downloaded from App Store. didn't work.

Randy basically I cant do select nVidia > restart, driver selection has reverted to default OS. Became my mac just wont restart, i have the hold down the Power Button etc

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Randy Gates
11/11/2018 11:44:00 pm

I've exhausted my options. I'll use my laptop for a few day and wait for a new driver. Then I guess it's back to the old ATI card.

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Timothy Freitas
11/12/2018 08:21:16 am

Randy did you load the coda software also? Version 410.130. My understanding is you need both. I suggest you unload the software restart your computer. Then reload the NVIDIA Diver Manager (387.10.10.10.40.108) then the Cuda (410.130). BTW what system are you running, MacPro 5.1 and what video card? My experience is with the NVIDiA GTX 970 4GB video card.

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flowrider
11/12/2018 10:10:47 am

It's Cuda not coda. And, no, you don't need Cuda for the Nvidia Web Driver to load. Something is corrupted on Randy's machine. My suggestion is to uninstall the Web Driver, completely uninstall There's an "Open Installer" box in the Web Driver preference pane. Then restart and zap the pram. Restart again and reinstall the web driver.

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Randy Gates
11/12/2018 10:12:49 am

I finally got the drivers to load! The last things I did were: First Aided the drive, applied permissions to the Enclosing Folders of Library>Extensions. Then I uninstalled the nVidia driver, rebooted with opt+cmd+P+R. Then reinstalled the security patch from the DMG downloaded from Apple. Then I installed the .108 driver. Reboot loaded and activated the driver (second monitor immediately came back)!

Not sure what did the trick. But there it is.

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flowrider
11/13/2018 08:49:28 am

Glad I could Help!

Kain
11/21/2018 06:02:50 am

I need ELP :) I have a 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6144 MB. My Apple Cinema HD Display 30" has just died… can you tell me what is that best Display 30" I can get for my mac please

Thanks
Kain

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Thomas
11/23/2018 02:18:40 am

In my experience, a Dell (Dell U2717D) monitor is good for little money. An LG 34 Wide is also very good, if you work on it you don't need a second monitor anymore. But it also costs as much as two Dell monitors.

BUT, AMD cards need sometimes more love...
https://www.mathewinkson.com/2013/03/force-rgb-mode-in-mac-os-x-to-fix-the-picture-quality-of-an-external-monitor
If you use Nvidia it work for me without this stuff.

It really depends on what you need to work with. For me (product visualizations/3D) these are completely sufficient. Photography, on the other hand, I would recommend an EIZO. But the costs are a lot of money.

Don't buy a Cinema Display anymore, unless it's new. Almost all of them give up their service. I have tried it... you get a lot of garbage, pixel errors or the USB control for brightness doesn't work or the colors are yellowish

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Timothy Freitas
12/5/2018 09:55:11 pm

Warning!!!!! don't update to security update 2019-003.

I have a Nvidia GeForce GTS 970 which was working beautiful with the Web driver 387.10.10.10.40.108 and the cudadriver 410.130 now everything has blown up.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

I know I should have known better than to update!

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flowrider
12/6/2018 01:45:29 pm

As I posted, in response to your warning in the other thread. Security Update 003, Build (17G4015) does indeed still work with Web Driver 387.10.10.15.15.108, the pulled Web Driver. I have been using it and continue to use it with success.

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