10.13.1 Update

11/1/2017

As we all know, Apple wishes you'd chuck those old "Cheesegraters" in the recycling heap and buy something soldered and glued together.

They have thus been making life difficult for upgraders.

High Sierra requires that SIP be ENABLED during Web Driver Install. If you need it disabled for some reason, you can do that once the drivers are installed and running.

How to tell if it is ENABLED? Open terminal and type "csrutil status" and it will tell you.

If it is disabled you can either enable it by booting to recovery or just do a PRAM reset. If someone needs the procedure for enabling/disabling from Recovery and Google has failed you I can type it up.

Before you upgrade from 10.13 build 405 to 10.13.1 you would be best served to have driver 121 installed. This will avoid the dreaded "boot loop" problem.

If you update and see a white dock, look in "Security" center to see if there is a notification that the Nvidia driver has been blocked, obviously you need to "allow" it.

I got 10.13.1 running last night. How about everyone else?

41 Comments

Andrei

11/1/2017 06:57:01 pm

Success!

Jason

11/30/2017 10:46:05 am

Wouldn’t you know it… Security Update 2017-001 has screwed things up all over again! No reboot seemed to be required, so thought I was safe… until I did restart this morning. It's starting to get tedious now. I think this will be the last OS update, ever! If Apple are trying to make life hard for old Mac users, it’s starting to work. Not even the .108 NVIDIA update will run as incompatible with the OS (Build 17B003). Hoping NVIDIA issues another update, to the update, soon.

Jay

11/30/2017 11:37:15 am

Yep. I don't even remember doing this update but here we are. I rebooted and now driver is incompatible. Just as I was finishing up a project! :(

11/30/2017 12:22:23 pm

I just got a system notification about a security update, clicked on details and it shows it already installed even though I have install MacOS updates and install security updates unchecked. It has never done this before. Everything is currently working fine, but now I'm scared to restart until it gets resolved. Ugh. Here we go again.

Steve D.

12/3/2017 09:30:33 am

That's because they ran the security update without user permission, automatically. There was some serious security flaw:

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/01/macos-high-sierra-root-fix-reinstall-10-13-1/

flowrider

11/1/2017 10:15:03 pm

No issues here. This is the FIRST time I had the Web Driver BEFORE the OS Update!

Any I had the 121 Web Driver installed in 10.13, so no boot loop this time around.

Everything's working as it should.

Lou

11/2/2017 03:37:05 am

Started at version 121 of NVIDIA's web driver and all worked for me. NVIDIA driver updated immediately after to 378.10.10.10.20.107, followed by a CUDA update to 9.0.222… first time both have updated together, and all working fine!

Stachowski

11/2/2017 07:22:10 am

Hello i have problème with latest version 13.13.1

When i move a windows the scrolling is bad

Why ?

i hace 1080

Matt

11/11/2017 04:30:12 am

Same thing here.
with quadro.
its working great on 10.12 and 10.11.

11/2/2017 08:01:45 am

escuse, it's on 10.13.1

latest driver bug with my gtx 1080

wait a new driver

11/2/2017 09:18:11 am

i have found my problem :

i have desable sud and reinstall driver.

cool

flehman

11/2/2017 06:16:25 pm

Dave - would a PRAM reset mess up the boot argument and cause boot loop? I thought perhaps I had read that somewhere.

I am still trying to ascertain why my first attempt at installing HS shortly after launch went sideways. I installed HS 10.13.0 and the first available nVidia drivers that came out the day or two after (probably 114), and everything *seemed* OK except for a block of error text that popped up during the grey screen/apple logo and then would go away. I attempted a PRAM reset and got boot looped. Now am gunshy about attempting again. Never could figure out the error message.

Thank you for the advice to leave SIP enabled while installing web drivers under 10.13. Do you also recommend uninstalling the 10.12.6 web drivers before upgrading to 10.13? Have you had any better luck with a clean 10.13 install, as I am considering that too.

4,1->5,1 with flashed 980.

dave link

11/2/2017 06:25:40 pm

Yes, PRAM reset removes the variable that tells Mac to use Web Driver. With 114 Web Driver this caused boot loop.

Block of text is normal, it got bigger with APFS file system that Apple added.

If you download High Sierra now and get 10.13.1 it should be much easier.

Ben link

11/2/2017 08:43:02 pm

I'd really appreciate a straight up, easy answer. I've been holding off on upgrading to High Serria. Normally I'm comfortable updating on a ".1" release.

I use my 5.1 mac for video editing with Premiere. I use it for a living.

I have one of your flashed Maxwell Titan X cards.

So, if I do choose to upgrade - for the first time - what driver should I use?

(I'm confused because your coments make it seem like I need to install a series of drivers in sequence.)

Thanks,

Ben

Paul R. link

11/2/2017 09:01:02 pm

I am still on 10.12.6 on my Mid 2010 and have been scared to move on to 10.13 after reading all the issues with drivers.

My card is a 980 Ti. If I were to update now what would be to process to avoid any issues?

11/3/2017 07:01:01 am

i have resolved my problems with driver.

i have disable SIP protection and now it's good

Bill

11/3/2017 01:21:10 pm

Can you do a flash upgrade on the AMD RX 580 to give boot screen?

vatti

11/4/2017 01:34:55 am

I have the follows:
MacPro 5.1 (2010 summer)
OSX: 10.13.1
• 20 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
• 2 x 2,66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4 GB

Can anyone write to me step by step how can I install the latest (10.13.1 (17B48) 378.10.10.10.20.107) web driver? Until now, I did not succeed. I'm not an expert, so I'm asking you to give me all information. Thanks

11/4/2017 01:38:15 am

Guys , it's much easier now.

As long as you have a flashed card, that is.

Best to go directly to 10.13.1, Apple should make it clear which version you are getting.

11/4/2017 03:03:15 am

What does this mean now? Will I never be able to install this graphics card on osx?

howardk

11/6/2017 10:00:34 pm

I've read everything up to here and I'm still confused about the process of upgrading my 980TI. from Dave's comment, does it mean we can just go directly to 10.13.1 without doing the supplement update procedure in the previous article where you have to delete the older files or do you still have to do that? I haven't upgraded yet and I'm still at 10.12.4.

thanks!

Andy

11/7/2017 03:34:13 am

If you've got a flashed card I've found it's really easy; just do the Apple update and if you end up in a boot loop, boot with CMD-S and delete the WebDriver from /Library/Extensions. Reboot, you'll have a Mac with a slow desktop, reinstall the latest driver and make sure to allow it in System Preferences > Security & Privacy when prompted, then reboot. All dandy.

That's on an original 5,1 with a 1080 Ti, with SIP enabled the whole time. You're only in trouble if you're using a non-flashed card, because you won't be able to see what you're doing in single user mode (booting with CMD-S). In that instance, you'd need to boot blind to target disk mode, connect to another machine, remove the driver and reboot.

DaveC

11/5/2017 09:43:59 pm

Has anyone had any issues with the 10.13.1 (17B48) 378.10.10.10.20.107 drivers causing random logouts when you are in full screen (i.e watching a video in chrome) or moving a window quickly especially from one monitor to the next very quickly?

Lucas

11/9/2017 05:57:49 am

For some strange reason on my 980 ti my 2nd 1080p monitor disappeared after updating to 10.3.1 and 378.10.10.10.20.107 drivers. It works fine in Bootcamp. Any suggestions?

bitnaut

11/10/2017 09:57:03 pm

Have you noticed that the new 107 web driver no longer recognizes the original Titan card?

Also when I put Titan X Maxwell and Titan X Pascal together on same 2010 Mac Pro, it goes into boot loop. If I remove Titan X Maxwell, boot proceeds as it always has.

Weird eh?

11/11/2017 11:49:11 am

Someone has an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4 GB under OS X 10.13.1?

PAul R. link

11/12/2017 04:21:59 pm

Well i took a chance and did the update to 10.13.1 today. So far so good. I got the Nidia update request at first boot and the cuda update as well. No issues at all. Mac Pro Mid 2010 with a 980Ti

I just need to get a larger SSD now, lol. I noticed I only have 60GB free.

Dax

11/14/2017 07:36:24 am

What files do I need to delete if I’m stuck in a boot loop?

Thanks.

11/14/2017 08:36:12 am

Ive managed to reinstall the .107 drivers on 10.13.1, its showing as not compatible though? Im unable to select the web driver.

Ray

11/27/2017 01:58:20 am

Did you ever solve this problem (unable to select the web driver)? Have same problem and tried different suggestions but no success.

John link

11/15/2017 04:06:19 am

Updated to 10.13.1 with no issues. First updated from Apple, then ran the Nvidia installer for x.20.107. All installed without a hitch. This is with a MVC GTX980.

11/15/2017 01:33:41 pm

Ditto what John said.

Wook

11/16/2017 09:49:23 pm

The other way that Apple is making it hard for upgraders is that HS does not support the Apple Raid card that came in my 5,1. Yes, it's a crappy raid card, as they go, but the process of getting off of it and back to 4 separate disks is painful enough that I'll just stay on Sierra for now. A suitable replacement isn't cheap or easy, and I like my disks internal so I don't have to worry about kicking out the cable.

Maarten

11/29/2017 12:16:14 pm

DO NOT INSTALL root patch!

https://ibb.co/gtQqsw

Latest driver is not compatible anymore somehow......

John Graham

11/30/2017 10:19:20 am

New driver for the root patch is now up.

11/30/2017 10:23:17 am

It's 378.10.10.10.20.108

Wolfgang

11/30/2017 11:05:23 am

Latest driver 378.10.10.10.20.108 is for macOS 10.13.1 (17B1002). My macOS shows 10.13.1 (17B1003). - So: no driver for this till now.

11/30/2017 03:11:00 pm

Mine show
System Software Overview:

System Version: macOS 10.13.1 (17B1002)
Kernel Version: Darwin 17.2.0
Boot Volume: OSX BOOT
Boot Mode: Normal
With the root patch.

Were did you get 17B1003 ?

11/30/2017 03:21:12 pm

Never mind. now there is a patch for the patch.
Sure hope this is the last one.
The driver is posted on MacVidCards drivers.
378.10.10.10.20.109

11/30/2017 08:28:06 pm

I did no manuell install of any kind, just a (seldom) restart of the Mac Pro 4.1/5.1. (Normaly I put the machine to sleep.) I recognized a remarkable long boot-time and ended up with no WebDriver and 10.13.1 (17B1003). Some days ago I read somewhere, that Apple can trigger an emergency-update!? Seems to happened for me.

Many thanks for the 378.10.10.10.20.109! That will bring me and my cMP back to work! :-)

Hans Hazebroek

12/9/2017 03:05:38 am

I installed macOS 10.13.1 (17B1003) on a 5.1 MacPro with SSD in APFS format. When trying to instal the webdriver an error message says: - “WebDriver-378.10.10.10.20.109.pkg” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash.- I re-downloaded the webdriver, this time from the NVIDIA server, but same error message. I found the NVDAStartup.kext in the System/Library/Extensions, but I cannot delete it/move it to the trash. Please let me know how to do this, and how to install the webdriver.
Using Macvidcards flashed Geforce GTX 980 4GB. Many thanks.

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